Well, we started today and had the second pick. Took Jackson due to LJ's questions, think it's six of one half dozen the other. Looking to grab Manning if by some chance he's still around or at least Harrison with the turnaround picks...any thoughts?

Follow along here...

http://football23.myfantasyleague.com/2007/options?L=36192&O=17

Also, yes, predrafting again...we've gotten off to a slow start and have already been chided and threatened with the Commish drafting if we don't do our part. I have 12 names on my list, should get 2...most are receivers, a couple of RBs and Manning first of course. Just letting you guys know who didn't care for the predraft on the last league I did...gotta make it work!

I'll follow along again, provided that you don't draft the Bears defense so early...

There are 3 teams who appeared in the top 10 defenses the last two seasons. The Bears were a freak re-occurrence at about 200 points. The norm is that defenses bounce up and down. The Ravens are being drafted as the #2 defense this season because they were the top team last year - and it seems that owners are disregarding the fact that they were 100 points better than the previous season. While these two teams could repeat near the top, there are zero guarantees.

My own philosophy is generally to fill my QB, 2RB, 2RB, and TE positions in the first 6 rounds (in whatever order you wish). If the league requires 3 WRs to start, throw another in the mix there... Then I draft my defense. I am not one who likes to wait until really late, but I am also rarely ever going to be the first to grab one either. If there is a glaring choice for a backup along the way I may stray from this, but not often.

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Originally posted by Skip:
I'll follow along again, provided that you don't draft the Bears defense so early...

I can even guarantee that won't happen. It's an IDP league, Skip.

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Originally posted by ravage:

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Originally posted by Skip:
I'll follow along again, provided that you don't draft the Bears defense so early...

I can even guarantee that won't happen. It's an IDP league, Skip.

Sorry, missed that aspect of it. That will make critiquing picks a challenge since I don't follow IDP stats at all.

Definetly won't take them early

Like what I have going so far...each draft area has it's advantages and disadvantages...number two pick is great, but long waits...then the turnaround, but have two solid backs and Harrison...off to a fine start. Will try grabing a top LB and Gates if I can, or another WR if I can the next time around...unless one of a about 3 backs are left that I'm looking at as a third starter.

I would grab 2 WR's and fill out your starters...by the time it gets back, WR depth could be scary. Coles,Cotchery,R Brown,P Burress,Calvin Johnson are left.

I say grab CJ & Reggie Brown

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You have a good point, and may do just that, but going to hope Gates is there and take him if possible...a huge upside in a league where you have to start a TE. Also going to try for McNabb if i can get him here...his average per game in this league is top thirteen the past two years...better than any other QB...including Manning, and he'll be gone before I roll around again.

Gates went 1 round ago. And I think grabbing McNabb is a horrible pick at this point. There's no reason to reach for a QB this early, especially one with as much risk as McNabb carries no matter the upside. Being on the bookend and off to a decent start, fill out your starters at the positions that are soon to get depleted (i.e. WR). If this is a start 3 WR league, I'd grab 2 more solid WR's as there is still plenty of value at QB and TE.

Dang...missed the Gates pick...good call. Tossing things around a bit...know what you mean, makes me remember why I hate the turnaround picks...they're only good at the top of the draft, the first or second pick...then they suck.

Better not say I never listen Good to have you guys along!

Good pick. The next pick could go a few different ways. I would consider gambling on Calvin Johnson as my #3 WR if he's available. I also like DJax and Ward with this pick. However, aside from the potential upside for CJ2, I could understand waiting on your #3 WR as the the WR's left at this point are pretty closely grouped. I can say, though, after watching DJax in the preseason game last night, I feel MUCH better about him. Not because of how he looked in terms of skills, but just the fact that he was even on the field and how quick he looked. If healthy (well, healthy for him means playing), he's easily the best WR left and would be a fantastic addition.

So, my next choice would be CJ2, DJax, or Ward. Otherwise, I'd go with Brady or Bulger as they are pretty decent value here as well.

CJ2 is on the top of the list...then Cotchery, Ward and Reg. Brown...didn't have DJax on there...just having a hard time trusting the SF passing game just yet. Not that I like Ward either, but at least we know what we can expect. Of course, next two picks before me should be WRs, so will be interesting to see who gets grabbed. I'm third pick at the moment, so will get one of those top three, CJ2, Cotchery or Ward.

I like Cotchery as well, but from your previous post, it didn't sound like you were fond of him. Even though his history and #'s are very similar to Berrian's, I like him considerably more from both a situation and talent perspective.

Too bad you don't like DJax. When he's on the field, he's one of the most talented I think and should easily put up solid #'s. My main question with him was injury, not team situation. But I understand your concerns and why you see it differently.

I see you got CJ2. As a #3 WR, I think he is perfect this year with a ton of upside. All you need is a solid, later round WR for bye weeks or to possibly be your #3 just in case, but I like the way you've started. As I'm not an IDP person, I'm not sure if the middle rounds is where they start to go. I'm quite surprised that both Brady and Bulger are still around. Not saying they should have been taken, but there's usually at least 1 or 2 people that would bit on them this early.

I'm surprised Branch went as early as he did. Otherwise, I think most of these picks have been pretty reasonable with the exception of Deuce that early as well.

Most go later, but you'll see some top names start to go soon based on last year. I intend to try to grab a top DE/DT like JTaylor if possible next time as value drop off is huge there after the top 1/2...TE type. Also may go with one of the guys you mentioned, or a LB or top DB...will have to play by ear as it gets closer.

Well, here we go...I'm sure there will be questions so I'll give my thoughts first. Also, note that I'm in a seriously busy time at me full time job so will not be able to give as lengthy answers at times like I did on the other thread...though I'll do my best.

I took Taylor as I planned and hoped. Kampmann I went back and forth with, and was actually changing my prepick when the guy before me did his and it went through. I'm not disappointed though. The bottom line is this. I had my starting backs and receivers...and I'm as good as anyone there I think...and at this point there were still enough QBs out there that I'd be happy to go into the season with that I decided to gamble that I could still get one the next time around. Next I took into account the point situation with the remaining position players. LBs are somewhat like WRs just with better point totals usually. Reasoning...there are a ton of LBs I will be able to grab throughout the next number of rounds. DBs are similar though not as many to choose from, but there is a gradual slide down the value list. At DLs though, the drop off is fast and it's significant. Taylor has been very consistent at the top in this league because of his status as a DL that plays like a DB at times. Kampmann has been right up there the past two years, is in the same system going the same direction...up. So felt that since I have to start two every week...I'll grab two of the best now...and then move on to the other positions the next time around. The chances of any other team getting two DLs that will match up equally with mine are slim...so I believe it was a value pick. Time will tell, but I'm happy so far.

Next time around I'll be looking at a QB and a top CB/S or LB...depending on who's going...and also maybe a backup RB depending on who's available still.

Thoughts?

Have to say I like how this draft is turning out alot better for you than the other one. I haven't done an IDP league in years, so I can't really say anything about those picks. Given that you are the first to take a defensive player, you may have been better served by taking a QB. Again, though, I'm not very familiar with IDP so I could be way off base. And you also just missed Bulger or Brady, so you couldn't have gotten a top flight guy anyway, unless you count Donovan McInjury. So you're probably safe picking up the (i'm assuming) top two defenders in the league.

Keep in mind that TJ's a little banged up right now. Its probably minor, but I think you should grab a backup RB (though the pickings are getting really slim there) and a QB with your next two picks, unless there's a standout starter available at TE or one of the other defensive positions.

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Have to say I like how this draft is turning out alot better for you than the other one.

I agree, the draft has been solid. I'm starting to get concerned about Jones as well. I've dropped him 2 slots for an upcoming hometown draft and most likely if I'm faced with him highest on my list I may still pass. Good picking so far. I may still have his Arizona years on my mind.

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Ok...sorry so late for a comment...haven't been home in 16 hours. I'm actually pretty please so far. Before everyone jumps on it, I realize I've passed on some depth...there is a lot of truth to that. It may bite me, but honestly, my usual feeling on depth is, unless the 'depth' is really top flight talent, you're hurting already if you're having to rely on that depth. Therefore, while the other guys are drafting 'depth'...you keep taking top guys at positions that actually have to be on the field. I now have quite possibly two of the top five DL's where the drop off is usually drastic, and one of the most consistent and likely top five DB, where again, while not as steep a drop off as the DLs, still significant. I should still be able to get a couple of solid LBs and there are a couple of QBs out there I'll be able to grab that should be serviceable though not great...and could be as nice as many who have just gone. All in all, it appears I'm putting together a decent enough team, but we'll see, this is a long draft for sure.