Standard Scoring .5 PPR
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE=WR

I Get
L. Fitzgerald
E. Graham (throw in)

I Give
S. Young
C. Chambers

My sqad:
QB: McNabb, Bulger
RB: Parker, K.Jones, Jones-Drew, T. Jones, S. Youn
WR: Roy Williams, Chambers, B Marshall, Cotchery, Hackett

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Keeper? How many?

Dynasty?

There is 3 year limit on keepers.
Fitz cannot be kept this year, although Williams can be. We can only keep 1 player from any pos so I'd consider it a wash.
As for RB, I would most likely keep Parker, Jones or MJD over Young so that's also a non-factor.

But I'm not to concerned about that at this point. My eyes are on the prize at any cost.

I probably wouldn't do it simply for the fact that Selvin Young could be big down the stretch. You have plenty of depth at RB and you probably wouldn't start him, but with the way injuries have been this year at the RB spot, I wouldn't help another team with a potential big-time starter. With only starting 1 WR in your league, I don't even know if Fitz ever plays with you having Roy. Even so, you'll be killing yourself each week trying to decide and you have pretty decent depth at WR anyway. I wouldn't trade simply to keep Young away.

Sorry gian, we start 3 WR.
I have edited the original post.

With the RB's you already have, this is a Fitz-Chambers trade. I'd pounce on it, especially with the PPR.

Oh, completely different then. Absolutely make the trade. I like Marshall and Cotchery quite a bit as #2 and #3 WR's, but Fitz is definitely an upgrade at virtually no cost to you.

Yeah, definitely make this trade. Young's going to get first crack at the job when Henry is done, but with Shannahan, you never know who's going to end up with the load. Fitz is a clear upgrade over Chambers.

Yes, go for this trade. Chambers is a joke. Fitzy is a nice improvement. And you don't need Young

I think you have to take this deal. As stated above, Fitz is an upgrade on Chambers and unless Young does amazing things, he's not going to see the starting lineup on your team. With Henry in an unknown state, Graham and Young are pretty similar in value for this year right now anyway.

I did take this. The only thing I was afraid of was Young turning into a stud. If Henry couldn't put up stud numbers there is no reason to think Young would be able to.

Not to mention ARI schedule is pretty soft vs the pass opposed to a very tough one for Chambers and S.D.

Thanx guys

I think it's the right move but the logic of Henry not posting stud numbers is a bit off.

1 @ BUF  23 139 6.0 33 0 3 44 14.7 21 0 -- -- 
2   OAK  26 128 4.9 23 0 2 8 4.0 7 0 -- -- 
4 @ IND  26 131 5.0 15 0 -- -- -- -- -- 1 0 

Those are pretty studly numbers just no TDs.

Of course he did have a couple clunkers also.

3   JAC  11 35 3.2 6T 1 0 0 -- -- 0 -- -- 
5   SD   16 65 4.1 15 0 0 0 -- -- 0 -- -- 
7   PIT  17 51 3.0 8 0 -- -- -- -- -- 1 0 

There's a chance Young doesn't something big but I think the chance is small enough that it was well worth the trade.

I guess I never though of it that way, since EVERY league counts TDs.

The bottom line on Henry is he produced 3 good FF starts out of 8 weeks. He ranks around 20th in most leagues and peaked at about 12th. That's far from stud anything.

Even excluding his inj/bye weeks he's only produced ave numbers in half of his starts.

All I was pointing out is that 3 of his first 4 weeks were fairly studly numbers, with or without a TD. 183, 136 and 131 yards are about as studly as you could ask for.

The other 3 games he actually played were against pretty good teams and he had a 4+ ypg average against SD but didn't get the ball enough but a 41-3 loss will have an effect on an RB sometimes.

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Originally posted by Sportz Genius:
I guess I never though of it that way, since EVERY league counts TDs.

The bottom line on Henry is he produced 3 good FF starts out of 8 weeks. He ranks around 20th in most leagues and peaked at about 12th. That's far from stud anything.

Even excluding his inj/bye weeks he's only produced ave numbers in half of his starts.

Wow, you're absolutely right SG. In fact, you're so right about the situation, remind me again why you even bothered to ask other's opinions since you have all the answers?

Seriously, I don't get coming on here and asking for opinions and getting some and then replying sarcastically to them and putting them down. After reading that last response of yours in reply to Iguana who was only trying to help, I can't help but wonder why you bothered asking for an opinion in the first place. Then again, you've done it before in your draft pick trade thread looking more for agreement than actual thoughts and opinions that differed from yours.

That response was to Henry putting up stud numbers, it had nothing to with the trade question I posted.(Thanx for following along)
The discussion about the trade was null and dead 5 posts ago when I said I took the trade.

It's just sarcasm gian, get over it. It kind of goes hand in hand with sports debates. This is isn't womens basketball we are talking about. We're not going to pat each other on the back and start hugging each other when a free throw is missed.
Maybe you've seen some sports shows on TV, or radio shows?? Maybe not, I don't know. Check them out if you get a chance, it will give you a feel for the tone of how some debates go.

Maybe you're just angry because your man crush didn't turn out to be what you wanted him to be.

Anyways, thanx for fighting Iguana's fight for him... AFTER he responded to my sarcastic post. I'm sure he was waiting for somone to step up and say what he was afraid to.

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Originally posted by Iguana:
All I was pointing out is that 3 of his first 4 weeks were fairly studly numbers, with or without a TD. 183, 136 and 131 yards are about as studly as you could ask for.

The other 3 games he actually played were against pretty good teams and he had a 4+ ypg average against SD but didn't get the ball enough but a 41-3 loss will have an effect on an RB sometimes.

Those are pretty yardage totals, but in most FF leagues they translate into 18.3 pnts, 13.6 pnts, and 13.1 pnts. Other than week1 they still don't look studley to me.

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Seriously, I don't get coming on here and asking for opinions and getting some and then replying sarcastically to them and putting them down.

Yep, the New Orleans contingency would NEVER do that!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

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Anyways, thanx for fighting Iguana's fight for him... AFTER he responded to my sarcastic post. I'm sure he was waiting for somone to step up and say what he was afraid to.

This is hilarious!!! And right on the mark. There are you 3 or so guys that always have each others backs when somebody disagrees with any of you. And you know who you are. Pretty girly, but funny as hell. Right on, SG!

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Originally posted by Sportz Genius:

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Originally posted by Iguana:
All I was pointing out is that 3 of his first 4 weeks were fairly studly numbers, with or without a TD. 183, 136 and 131 yards are about as studly as you could ask for.

The other 3 games he actually played were against pretty good teams and he had a 4+ ypg average against SD but didn't get the ball enough but a 41-3 loss will have an effect on an RB sometimes.

Those are pretty yardage totals, but in most FF leagues they translate into 18.3 pnts, 13.6 pnts, and 13.1 pnts. Other than week1 they still don't look studley to me.

This goes back to a point I've tried to make in several threads both recently and over time. You have a handful of guys each year that you can count on for TDs week in and week out. There are 2 categories of these types of players.

First are what I would label as "super studs" that put up unreal numbers year after year after year and you can count on them for long periods of time. These are guys like LT, Alexander, Harrions, Moss (although he disappeared for awhile), Ownens, Faulk, George, Rice, etc.

Then there are the guys that are your "one hit wonders" that put up monster TDs for a season and then never hit that level of TDs again. This includes guys like James Stewart, Mike Anderson and Antwain Smith who not only only had the 1 year of TDs but also only 1 year of any real fantasy value. However, this group also include players like Jamal Lewis, Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Jerome Bettis, and quite a few others. These guys were only TD machines for a couple of seasons but were still fantasy studs.

So, IMO, Henry ran for studly numbers in 3 out of 4 games to start the season. Young put up very good numbers/near studly numbers (120 total yards) in his only start of the year against what has been a very good rush defense. Therefore, I think your concerns over not wanting to give up Young are justified in that he could put up some studly numbers down the stretch if Henry ends up out for whatever reason. However, I think the value you got in return far outweighs the risk of losing such potential and thus it was a deal you had to take.

It's funny that we can agree on almost all things in this thread and still get a nice little debate out of something.